QUESTION:
- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text -Was Prophet Ibrahim a Jew or a Christian? In the Name of Allah Most Gracious Most Merciful. All praise and thanks are due to Allah and peace and blessings be upon His Messenger. In Tafsir Al-Jalalayn by Imam Jalalud-Deen Al-Mahalli and Jalalud-Deen As-Suyuti it is stated: "The Jews and Christians believed that Ibrahim (Abraham) is the ancestor of the Jews. So Allah revealed: "O People of the Scripture! Why will ye argue about Abraham when the Torah and the Gospel were not revealed till after him? Have ye then no sense?" (Al `Imran: 65) The verse addresses the Jews thus: How do you argue about Ibrahim and claim that he is a Jew or a Christian while the Torah and the Gospel were revealed long time after him? This means that your claim is unfounded.The Quran came centuries after the Torah and the Gospel you therfor have no claim.
RESPONSE:
Was Prophet Ibrahim a Jew or a Christian?
He was by definition Hebrew. And he was not a prophet having prophesied nothing. In the Name of Allah Most Gracious Most Merciful. All praise and thanks are due to Allah and peace and blessings be upon His Messenger. In Tafsir Al-Jalalayn by Imam Jalalud-Deen Al-Mahalli and Jalalud-Deen As-Suyuti it is stated: "The Jews and Christians believed that Ibrahim (Abraham) is the ancestor of the Jews. So Allah revealed: "O People of the Scripture! Why will ye argue about Abraham when the Torah and the Gospel were not revealed till after him? Have ye then no sense?" (Al `Imran: 65)
This is true. Many have claimed to be descendants of Abram including the Egyptians and the Hurrians - And they made their claims at the same time as or before the Jews. The verse addresses the Jews thus: How do you argue about Ibrahim and claim that he is a Jew or a Christian while the Torah and the Gospel were revealed long time after him? This means that your claim is unfounded.
It was until Jesus was born of the line of David. The following Qur'anic verses refute this claim further by stating that if the Jews and the Christians base their argument about Musa (Moses) and `Isa (Jesus) on the fact that they have knowledge about those two Prophets it's unfathomable for them to argue about Ibrahim (Abraham) concerning whom they do not have any knowledge!
Abram was an Amorite - as were his children (exception: Ishmael who was half Egyptian) Allah says: "Lo! ye are those who argue about that whereof ye have some knowledge: Why then argue ye concerning that whereof ye have no knowledge ? Allah knoweth. Ye know not." (Al `Imran: 66)
We Christians have the knowledge from the birth of Jesus. Then Allah Almighty says the truth about Ibrahim that he was not a Jew or a Christian but a "Muslim" submitting to the Will of Allah:
No. Abram was simply an Amorite who rejected his fellow Amorite's pagan beliefs. Rejecting paganism doesn't make one specifically a Muslim Jew or a Christian. It makes one non-pagan. And Abram certainly was not a Christian. "Abraham was neither a Jew nor a Christian; rather he was an upright man who had surrendered to Allah (Muslim) and he was not of the idolaters."(Al `Imran: 67)"
So show where Abram surrendered to Allah. First meeting. And how does Muhamaud know this any more than anyone else since the Quran was also written after the fact? And in fact is in last place? Does he in fact have no knowledge either? Just as he said the Jews and Christians have no knowledge? The word "Muslim" in the verse means believing in the Oneness of God and surrendering to His Will.
Then all Christians and Jews are "Muslims" in that verse. In his book Perished Nations Harun Yahya states: "Christians who believe in the Old Testament think that Ibrahim is the ancestor of the Jews but with only one difference: according to Christians Ibrahim is not a Jew but a Christian.
It is impossible for Abram to have been a Christian. What salvation was offered to Abram? The Christians who did not heed the concept of race as much as Jews took this stand
By race Abram was an Amorite being a Semite from Ur of the Chaldeans. and it is one of the causes of disagreement and struggle between the two religions.
Many Jews wrongfully believe they are a race. Allah brings the following explanation of these arguments in the Qur'an: "O People of the Scripture! Why will ye argue about Abraham when the Torah and the Gospel were not revealed till after him?
Same for the Quran. Have ye then no sense? "Lo! ye are those who argue about that whereof ye have some knowledge: Why then argue ye concerning that whereof ye have no knowledge ? Allah knoweth. Ye know not."
Jesus knoweth too. "Abraham was not a Jew
Why not? nor yet a Christian;
and never was but he was an upright man who had surrendered to Allah (Muslim) and he was not of the idolaters." (Al `Imran: 65-67)
If Abram was not the first Jew why was Jesus born a Jew? In the Qur'an very differently from what is written in the old Testament Ibrahim is a person who warned his people so that they might fear Allah.
The Egyptians knew him - And never said he brought warnings. Starting from his youth he warned his people who worshipped idols to give up this practice. Rather than yielding to his plea his people attempted to kill him. Having escaped from the wickedness of his people Ibrahim finally emigrated." http://islamonline.net/
And took wicked Sarai with him? Just curious. ::Clark::
RESPONSE:
He sure wasn't a Muslim considering that Islam don't exist in any manner or form whatsoever until Muhammad started innovatiing it around 610 A.D.! -- Some Qur'an quotes: 5:20 qaala muusaa 5:21 "yaa qawmi
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